tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17534827.post8194083367874661153..comments2024-03-27T22:02:52.479-04:00Comments on Digital ProTalk: Trash The Dress Or Trash The Photographer FridayDavid Ziserhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02674227631785266632noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17534827.post-35617519139213864442011-10-23T14:32:34.189-04:002011-10-23T14:32:34.189-04:00I think your article reads as extremely stuck up a...I think your article reads as extremely stuck up and incredibly snobbish. Looking down your nose at others because they think outside the box and want some actual personality to shine through, how closed minded. Not everyone is straight-laced and rigid, some people like to get dirty for fun. What's wrong with that? Taking action shots while "mudding" on a fourwheeler may illustrate how the couple met. Or the jelly donuts may be an inside joke between the bride and groom. Art is art. If the technical aspects are on point, does the subject really matter? Who are you to decide what is vulgar? I find it vulgar to spend $250,000 on a wedding, including a $5-$10,000 photographer, when there are starving people all over the world. "Donating the dress" for charity you say? Why spend that much on a dress at all when you can just donate the cash? It's all personal choices and viewpoints. So please, do not sit on your high horse and put other's down when you are preaching open minded ideas in the same breath. Pretty hypocritical. <br />Bless your heart darlin'<br />Jessica in TexasAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17534827.post-49410784282087034282010-10-16T13:37:31.250-04:002010-10-16T13:37:31.250-04:00The institution of marriage is a sacred event and ...The institution of marriage is a sacred event and should be treated as such. So many people in America and around the world live lifestyles that mock and dishonor this basic establishment. It's easy to point out one thing like TTD and criticize it as vulgar or tasteless, but how is it. Although the dress does have symbolism, merely getting it wet or dirty does not remove it's worth by any means. The root of vulgarity lies within the specific client and photographer. I feel that many brides use this new trend as a fun way to remember the transition from being one individual to having a lifelong partnership. It can be a very creative marker in life. This just depends on the person. Trashy people do trashy things, but I don't think a style in itself should be targeted. Obviously people can exploit specific movements within any art to display their own depravity, but most just like the look. As much as you don't have to like a specific style, you don't have to assume that others are just morally and creatively bankrupt in order to embrace and promote TTD. It's not my favorite, but it has it's place. So what if it's not a brand new idea.....there's nothing new under the sun. Everything new is a variation of everything old. We just do our best and let everyone else love, hate, or act indifferent about it.Calebnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17534827.post-62764396783400239692010-08-03T20:38:46.034-04:002010-08-03T20:38:46.034-04:00David, I couldn't agree more. I think a shoot ...David, I couldn't agree more. I think a shoot like this can provide a photog with some great opportunities to make spectacular images, and can be done well. However, more often than not, it is really just some male photographers poor excuse to stick a woman in the mud or water and take pictures for his own personal pleasure. Furthermore, a wedding is a sacred event, and a bride and groom are a sacred metaphor. I want to tread lightly on holy ground.Jason Drummhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04967592238103725758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17534827.post-2252094296160018912009-11-06T07:36:58.973-05:002009-11-06T07:36:58.973-05:00I agree, I don't think it is about destroying ...I agree, I don't think it is about destroying a dress. I think it is about getting ultra creative and without the stress of the fast moving timeline of a wedding day.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04424791054832068351noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17534827.post-73826753194908995282009-11-02T03:02:00.642-05:002009-11-02T03:02:00.642-05:00I stand in the middle on these sessions. A lot of ...I stand in the middle on these sessions. A lot of brides I have done these sessions for are really looking for another excuse/reason to wear their very expensive wedding gown and also want to do something fun and creative. I've never tossed jelly donuts on a dress or had the bride four wheeling through the mud, and would never dream of encouraging this sort of shoot. <br /><br />There is one circumstance where I think trashing a dress might be a bit more palatable....divorcees or those getting married for a second time. I've heard of a number of women wanting to put the old life behind them and one tangible symbol of this old life is this wedding dress that they've held on to. <br /><br />On one of the last of these sessions that I did, an older woman walked by while my bride stood on a beautiful forest trail. The dress was not noticeably ruined or damaged, this woman thought it was an utter disgrace that this dress was being "ruined" by being out in a forest.<br /><br />I concur "Cherish the Dress" is a lot more palatable and knowing why Hanley called it that (it was easier to market to brides and THEIR MOMS) may also say something about differing generations.Kathryn Lhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04016056763489482040noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17534827.post-61172410873474500812009-10-28T21:57:38.403-04:002009-10-28T21:57:38.403-04:00Thanks for expressing a strong opinion that many m...Thanks for expressing a strong opinion that many might find surprising. Too many photograghy leaders seem afraid to share their opinions that are contrary to current trends.<br /><br />I did one session with a Prom dress. Been there, did it once... That's enough. Next.Fuzzy Duenkelhttp://www.duenkel.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17534827.post-76826073296691785432009-10-27T16:22:21.659-04:002009-10-27T16:22:21.659-04:00How very cool to be quoted on your blog too. I so...How very cool to be quoted on your blog too. I so enjoyed hanging out with the Washington Post for the trash the dress session they featured. It is so true to have creative freedom with your clients is priceless.<br /><br />www.abrittonphotography.comAllison Brittonhttp://www.abrittonphotography.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17534827.post-19798747903338044282009-10-26T03:19:50.140-04:002009-10-26T03:19:50.140-04:00Hi David,
A different spin on TTD is cherish the ...Hi David,<br /><br />A different spin on TTD is cherish the dress by Chris Hanley in the UK. <br /><br />http://www.cherishthedress.co.uk/Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01227404951595711559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17534827.post-91460950632703060672009-10-25T14:26:57.115-04:002009-10-25T14:26:57.115-04:00Hi David, Annie of the Attic here! Thanks for the ...Hi David, Annie of the Attic here! Thanks for the reference. I'm new at blogging and am always curious when one of my blogs starts getting a lot of attention. After I wrote that piece I thought of a perfect time to trash the dress. If it has been kept in storage and still fits, a divorce photography session might be very cathartic. What do you think about that? As I said in my blog, some of the images in the photography are gorgeous, like the ones you've posted, but personally I'd still rather see most of them in a bridal rental or consignment shop. My dad pinched pennies until Abe moaned but some of it rubbed off on me. I'm new to your site but I'll check back. AAAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17534827.post-48546025327521406042009-10-24T17:09:53.699-04:002009-10-24T17:09:53.699-04:00The trash the dress idea seems to be alive amongst...The trash the dress idea seems to be alive amongst those people who have a few more checks in their checkbooks than most average people. This is a way of saying, "I can afford to throw away money". <br />While a few Artful photos might be taken, this is mostly a self indulgent activity with some of the proceeds going to the photographer who made the suggestion in the first place.<br />Maybe the same photographers should just dontae their share of the proceeds to some suitable charity. Then something positive will come about from otherwise pointless destruction.Roger Bottingnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17534827.post-50249461803202381752009-10-24T16:45:05.247-04:002009-10-24T16:45:05.247-04:00Trash the dress is for a trashy bride. I like Ano...Trash the dress is for a trashy bride. I like Anoymous' comment about donating it to a worthy bride in need. Stupid is as stupid does - and that goes for bad taste too. Keep the standards!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17534827.post-73510006220447001302009-10-24T16:22:04.479-04:002009-10-24T16:22:04.479-04:00I find the trend to be in poor taste. I think that...I find the trend to be in poor taste. I think that the dresses could be donated to brides who cannot afford them. Let's start a Donate The Dress (DTD) movement.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17534827.post-74914721549776687992009-10-24T12:02:32.951-04:002009-10-24T12:02:32.951-04:00I agree, whats the point just because you are doin...I agree, whats the point just because you are doing something that makes no sense does not mean it's creative. <br /><br />I call my "TTD" sessions an "Aftershoot" I tell the bride we will "push the dress" i.e. do things that we would never have dared on the day... getting it wet walking into the middle of a field that's bound to pickup all kinds of debris that kind of thing.<br /><br />I love the fact that we have time to work magic :) <br /><br />Greg.Greg Lumleyhttp://www.greglumley.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17534827.post-81282201252581608392009-10-24T11:14:30.603-04:002009-10-24T11:14:30.603-04:00I agree 100%. Throwing jelly doughnut's at a d...I agree 100%. Throwing jelly doughnut's at a dress is in poor taste and MESSY.<br />To me they are not being creative. A bridal pictorial makes a lot of sense.Ed Krisiakhttp://www.lehighphotography.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17534827.post-55489203922493596512009-10-24T07:54:06.240-04:002009-10-24T07:54:06.240-04:00Hey there David,
Greetings from Australia.
I have...Hey there David,<br />Greetings from Australia.<br /><br />I have to agree 100% with the sentiments stated re TTD sessions. I have had that discussion so often with photographers and aspiring photographers that frankly it is tiring.<br /><br />Just because something is allegedly different and theoretically creative, does not make it worthwhile or in good taste.<br /><br />Oft times it is actually a poor excuse made to cover lack of true creativity and originality!<br /><br />So - well done on stating it in a lovely balanced manner. Keep up the great work.<br /><br />- Willie<br /><br />www.williefagan.blogspot.comWilliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12340234422334227647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17534827.post-65509666296075165392009-10-23T17:51:03.300-04:002009-10-23T17:51:03.300-04:00You could also include "Trashing The Bride&qu...You could also include "Trashing The Bride" ;)<br /><br />http://cantrellportrait.bigfolioblog.com/weblog/post/123869monkeyinaboxhttp://www.monkeyinabox.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17534827.post-25461379211355715752009-10-23T16:26:39.019-04:002009-10-23T16:26:39.019-04:00Hey, If it's ok with the bride, so what? I wou...Hey, If it's ok with the bride, so what? I would think most brides would keep thier dress but who knows. I like the idea (as long as the mud stays off my camera).Ken Toneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11879757999644105810noreply@blogger.com