tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17534827.post3543109119726509377..comments2024-03-27T22:02:52.479-04:00Comments on Digital ProTalk: [B]Business Day Thursday: Is Professional Wedding Photography DeadDavid Ziserhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02674227631785266632noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17534827.post-70618376295713698542008-11-11T23:57:00.000-05:002008-11-11T23:57:00.000-05:00Great article, we always get great comments from t...Great article, we always get great comments from the officiants, Churches, etc. where we work... it's a bit funny - we consider our behavior "normal" and not really special but unfortunately the expectations are so low that a photog doesn't really have to be special to be noticed.<BR/><BR/>Just think how many referrals a photog would get if he/she is even 10% above "normal" acting? And if he/she marketed him/herself using this angle?<BR/><BR/>http://www.tiffanygphoto.com/blogAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17534827.post-33785941185784045562008-07-07T19:03:00.000-04:002008-07-07T19:03:00.000-04:00Thanks for the link! Bye the way; I think that som...Thanks for the link! Bye the way; I think that some flash should be allowed, but only if (a) the priest/minister explicitly okays it after being asked by the photographer, and (b) only the primary (professional) photographer uses his flash (and sparingly so!).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17534827.post-26052785425216384882008-07-05T10:01:00.000-04:002008-07-05T10:01:00.000-04:00@steve aUnfortunately, you just made David's point...@steve a<BR/><BR/>Unfortunately, you just made David's point...if we ALL are not being professional, those of us who are will pay the price. You never know how the photog was at the last wedding or the last few, and the photog at the wedding you were attending got the blunt end of it.<BR/><BR/>I so agree with the bridal party finding out the rules, but its our job as well, especially with all the other planning the b/g have to do.<BR/><BR/>I too can see the day when only approved photographers will be allowed to shoot in some religious sites, or all. But will this really be such a bad thing, then aspiring photogs will have to apprentice with those on the list, thats when everyone will learn a certain standard.Guided Light Photographyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01340271190963535290noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17534827.post-25854942407755315492008-07-04T16:45:00.000-04:002008-07-04T16:45:00.000-04:00Spot on David! I cannot think of an article of la...Spot on David! I cannot think of an article of late which I have agreed with more. I am sure you hear horror stories of "Photographer's behaving badly" at every event-I know we do. <BR/><BR/>It is so sad people conduct themselves in this manner, then the very same will decry the restrictions put on them by the clergy! <BR/><BR/>Proper decorum and proper dress are a must at ALL weddings...it is about the couple and their loved ones-Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17534827.post-4682075175461247572008-07-04T11:45:00.000-04:002008-07-04T11:45:00.000-04:00David,Bang on with the comments as usually but, th...David,<BR/><BR/>Bang on with the comments as usually but, there is a flip side to this. I was recently at a wedding where the minister was so restrictive and obnoxious to the photographer I am surprise he got at shots at all. From what I saw the guy wasn't doing anything wrong. I'm not saying that wedding photographers should be professional, far from it, but IMHO the wedding party should do there homework on the church as well. At lot of folks don't get married in their 'home church' so they tend to treat it like any other 'events centre' when the reality is it ain't! Bottom line is everyone involved has to work together to make a great wedding shoot - that the way it should be.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17534827.post-57587012457931787172008-07-04T08:42:00.000-04:002008-07-04T08:42:00.000-04:00Well said! Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!Well said! Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!Teresahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08725979058201542386noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17534827.post-58922015796692728492008-07-04T01:55:00.000-04:002008-07-04T01:55:00.000-04:00Wow! I always meet with the minister, priest, rab...Wow! I always meet with the minister, priest, rabbi etc before every wedding to find out what the rules are. I let my brides know what these rules are as well so we are all on the same playing field.<BR/><BR/>I had a priest tell me at one wedding that no flashes were allowed. Knowing that I will be the only one not using a flash I asked him if he would announce no flash photography before the ceremony. He did and there were no flashes!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17534827.post-41061212891056670362008-07-03T20:15:00.000-04:002008-07-03T20:15:00.000-04:00+1 on this David. I'm all for helping the eager an...+1 on this David. I'm all for helping the eager and starting pro, but EVERYONE needs to focus on professionalism and service as a number one goal.<BR/><BR/>If you think wedding photography is just an easy buck, then your in the wrong business.<BR/><BR/>GavinAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17534827.post-3422704538276349772008-07-03T18:11:00.000-04:002008-07-03T18:11:00.000-04:00Hello David,After attending your school last year,...Hello David,<BR/><BR/>After attending your school last year, it was clear to me that I did not want to be a wedding photog.<BR/><BR/>After watching your "magic" and what it takes to be a "real" wedding photographer; I learned a lot from you, lighting, composition,etc, however I only want to be an assistant or a 2nd shooter in this wedding business.<BR/><BR/>I have be a professional from my early days in the legal book business to now. <BR/><BR/>I do a nice job in portraits, babies, families and autos. <BR/><BR/>I will leave the wedding business to you and others like you who are quite remarkable, as you are too, in the wedding business.<BR/><BR/>So, if you need an assistant backup or 2nd shooter, think of me in Lexington. <BR/><BR/>My hat is off to guys like you and other professional wedding photographers.<BR/><BR/>Sadly, I think the wedding business (photography) will suffer more before discretion and humility take hold.<BR/><BR/>Ken in LexingtonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17534827.post-9785950287740358982008-07-03T16:44:00.000-04:002008-07-03T16:44:00.000-04:00I think part of the problem here may be what photo...I think part of the problem here may be what photographers are learning in school these days. In my yearbook class in high school, I was specifically taught, "During a pep rally, run out onto the floor if you need to to get your shot. You might look silly, but the picture will be worth it in the end." That teacher routinely instructed that the ends justified the means, as far as that went. These photographers may feel that even if they look silly at the wedding and bother a few guests, those things are not as important as preserving the moment in the picture. <BR/><BR/>This of course, would be a silly idea to apply to a wedding photographer during a religious ceremony, but etiquette is no longer taught in schools, and respect for religion and its ceremonies seems to be at an all time low. Add all that up and you get exactly what you are talking about. <BR/><BR/>I think we all need to just do the best we can and stand out as the type of professional photographer that will sacrifice an awesome angle out of respect for the importance of the event rather than vice versa.Paul Kremerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17281296502196508184noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17534827.post-54048342846653066582008-07-03T16:40:00.001-04:002008-07-03T16:40:00.001-04:00Bravo! That's all I can say or I'll start rantin...Bravo! <BR/>That's all I can say or I'll start ranting as well.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17534827.post-31525838687048761842008-07-03T16:40:00.000-04:002008-07-03T16:40:00.000-04:00In grad school I was a wedding photographer's assi...In grad school I was a wedding photographer's assistant and occasionally second camera. The photographer I worked with was a stickler for proper dress and decorum. It was nothing that my mother hadn't drilled into my head as a child already. I think sometimes the problem is just a lack of home training.<BR/><BR/>I am shooting a wedding for a friend in two weeks. They asked me because as a fellow Catholic who regularly attends the Latin Mass at this parish I will already be respectful. <BR/><BR/>The priests I have spoken with all have their stories of incredibly disrespectful photographers who ignore the fairly simple rules that are set out. It wouldn't surprise me if some Churches move to having 'approved photographers' the way that they have approved musicians and florists.Mary Marthahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00719610017317232480noreply@blogger.com