tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17534827.post7322704625565910809..comments2024-03-27T22:02:52.479-04:00Comments on Digital ProTalk: Business Day Thursday; I've Got To Get Home To See The Love BoatDavid Ziserhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02674227631785266632noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17534827.post-45049674089590785842010-07-21T17:34:39.046-04:002010-07-21T17:34:39.046-04:00Many photographers in my area book by the hour or ...Many photographers in my area book by the hour or by the package. Many of these are the people looking for the cheapest prices, some even spending more on a photo booth rather than their own photos. Many people are getting photo's only. If you charge more you don't get the business and some cannot stay in business because of all the newbies that are cutting the prices. <br /><br />I truly believe that David is right but..... he's also an established photographer and photographs the more well to do brides and grooms. I'll bet with all that I have read over the last couple years on this fantastic site that with the people that he has at an event and the number of exposures he takes, he's charging over $4000/wedding. I'd stay and shoot their departure on the honeymoon for that price.<br /><br />The bigger well established photographers around here are complaining too. They say they are not booking as many as they did just a couple years ago. Many couples are hunting online and picking the cheapest photographers that look half-way decent.... and that means nothing like David's photos.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17534827.post-27162837398409688982010-07-16T21:43:20.933-04:002010-07-16T21:43:20.933-04:00I'm more than a little surprised at how some o...I'm more than a little surprised at how some of us feel about serving our clients. A few seem to feel it's us against them. This reminds me of a recent article I read in one of our photography magazines, where a studio owner was asked how he reacted to the dissatisfied client. He stated that he would thank his client for bringing the concern to his attention and then he would go out of his way to remedy the problem. I have a strong feeling that good success follows those who take such an approach. Brian F.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17534827.post-72304211804496295822010-07-16T20:35:25.587-04:002010-07-16T20:35:25.587-04:00Hey David,
Interesting post! I'm a little un...Hey David, <br /><br />Interesting post! I'm a little unclear about how your wedding or event pricing works... Are you suggesting a flat rate for any event length, or is the client paying for an indeterminate amount of time that is just assessed after the event?<br /><br />I'm probably being a little dense about it... :) <br /> <br />Thanks,<br />KristinSurreal Image Studioshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04344878730969923150noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17534827.post-38952862857249267302010-07-16T15:17:10.332-04:002010-07-16T15:17:10.332-04:00Just great ideas. Some would think it is apples a...Just great ideas. Some would think it is apples and oranges, but it is really about serving your client. Well put!Adam Pendletonhttp://www.AdamPendleton.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17534827.post-36441071661589293172010-07-16T13:44:59.719-04:002010-07-16T13:44:59.719-04:00Yeah, you have to get all those photos of everyone...Yeah, you have to get all those photos of everyone being drunk and acting like an a$$. They may not "sell" their way into an album, but are great for blackmail.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17534827.post-50666957456265593292010-07-16T13:07:03.534-04:002010-07-16T13:07:03.534-04:00So, if your client hadn't conceded the point f...So, if your client hadn't conceded the point for the cost of the extra two hours, what would you have done? Give them the 200 frames as good will? Hold back the 200 frames?Craighttp://www.craigstocksarts.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17534827.post-80287287863272796112010-07-16T11:22:12.161-04:002010-07-16T11:22:12.161-04:00I agree with booking the entire time. When I book...I agree with booking the entire time. When I book a client I let them know that they are booking for 'The Wedding', 'The Wedding and The Reception', or for the full day. I am there for however long the events that they are booked for lasts.Peter Yovichhttp://www.tieronephotos.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17534827.post-31603692053608514422010-07-16T07:50:28.406-04:002010-07-16T07:50:28.406-04:00In response to the above poster...I have never und...In response to the above poster...I have never understood why photographers are married to the subject of "Packages". Is it because that's what everyone else does?? It only limits your clients. We don't sell packages, rather we sell "freedom of pricing". We have the client create whatever they want. No boundaries (except for a minimum $ amt). And anything the client purchases, we are there for the entire event. I think photographers need to rid themselves of "Limits".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17534827.post-16962532267311647122010-07-16T06:20:53.139-04:002010-07-16T06:20:53.139-04:00I have left early once, but there was a very good ...I have left early once, but there was a very good reason. The wedding was held on an island, the last ferry left about 1/4 of the way through the reception and being a work mate, I'd quoted low so could not extend to resort accommodation prices for myself and my assistant to spend the night. The clients were well aware of this and were very ok with it.David de Groothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14483898737061597867noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17534827.post-59096961122895749232010-07-16T02:09:24.512-04:002010-07-16T02:09:24.512-04:00Anon: David's technique of staying until the e...Anon: David's technique of staying until the end regardless of wish, and then showing the client the photos they need to pay extra for is probably a better way of doing business - you are much more likely to up the sale post event (not on the dance floor). Its not like you have another event to rush to. <br /><br />Also the fact that at that point you are not "officially" working means you can really relax into the role and get some extra cool shots to top up the album.<br /><br />Alternatively, direct the couple to Bob's and wish them luck.Russell Phillippehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14087341509057063066noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17534827.post-27277619457699892522010-07-15T23:34:40.611-04:002010-07-15T23:34:40.611-04:00I totally agree with full event coverage concept. ...I totally agree with full event coverage concept. I refuse to work for people that call and say they need anything less. I just let them know it's all or nothing. ~SheriAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17534827.post-74298146692963263762010-07-15T23:29:00.288-04:002010-07-15T23:29:00.288-04:00To time the event or not? :)
David, usually I'...To time the event or not? :)<br /><br />David, usually I'd agree with you on your topics, but this will be one of those times where I'll be opposite. Recently I decided to give 'unlimited time' package to a client. Both my self and my second crew, were on our feet for 18hrs w/ maybe 1hr brake overall. The brake consisted of siting in the limo and riding from point A to point B. Other times, NON-STOP shooting. Yes, the couple got a lot of stuff, but 18hrs of work = 3 days of recuperating. Getting "everything" is important but my health and well being is equally important if not so much for my-self but for my family and future B&Gs.<br />It was a trial unlimited run that we did and won't do again. From years of experience we know what 4hr coverage will look like and know what 15hr coverage looks like. These numbers aren't random and are there for reasons of allowing me to faster recover from non-stop running around and get to processing and/or shooting another job next day.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17534827.post-24914791126286181202010-07-15T22:06:19.450-04:002010-07-15T22:06:19.450-04:00I totally disagree. With today's dime a dozen ...I totally disagree. With today's dime a dozen photographers and worse, the "I expect to only pay a dime" brides, If they don't buy the package that keeps me there the entire time then I don't stay the entire time. Should future potential clients ever ask about it I'll simply say, don't be like Cheap Betty, buy the full coverage if that's what you want, but don't expect it because Bob's Photography offers it to you. My response would be, I don't give a dime! ;c )Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com